I thought I'd provide some context to the narrative that the
Giants can't retain players / have a bad culture due to the number
that leave by trade.
I've put together a comparison of the Giants list changes
between 2015 and 2019 (inclusive) and randomly selected Victorian
clubs that I believe have been around the same results mark as GWS
of this period. Oh, and Carlton as an actual example of extreme
list change. I've excluded the current 2020 season and off-season
as all changes won't be final for a while.
Now I know a lot of you simply don't like GWS (hey Dogs fans!)
but I haven't seen much actual analysis on the state of the list by
many in the media, so thought I'd try to give it a go.
List Management Changes (2015 - 2019)
As you can see in the above table, the Giants list has actually
been exceptionally stable. When you consider that in 2015 the AFL
brought forward the end to the Giants expanded list (part of their
establishment concenssion) by three years, forcing them to reduce
their list by an additional six spots, it's actually incredible
their turnover has been so low.
58% of their list turnover has been by trading out
players. The next closest from this sample is Hawthorn who
have managed to have 31% of their changes by out-going traded
When it comes to de-listing, it's been significantly under all
other clubs in this time, with only 21% of the list changes coming
via this mechanism. 60% (6/10) of delisted players in the past five
years were either re-rookied by GWS, or rookied/drafted by other
clubs. The Giants have only delisted 4 players in 5 years
who haven't ended up back on an AFL list.
Retirements is a little under the other clubs, accounting for
19% of list changes. Even these though are due to the way the club
brought in players in their twilight, milking the last few years
out of them. Reitrements include: Deledio, Simpson, Griffen,
Johnson, Mumford, Mzungu, Patfull and Addison. Only Tom
Downie (mental health) has retired having played only for the
Whilst acknowleding the club have lost some significant talent
in this period (Shiel, Smith, Steele & Treloar being the most
obvious), they've also managed to retain players equally talent
(such as Josh Kelly, Stephen Coniglio, Lachie Whitfield, Toby
Greene and Nick Haynes) who are all from interstate.
It looks like GWS will again lose talent through trades this
year (Caldwell, Langdon, Hately) and Free Agency (Cameron,
Williams, Corr) however this should be put in the context above. If
I've missed a club you'd like it compared to, I can look in to
that, but I've done all the calculations manually, so it may take